Off-road hobby with modern mass produced car – is it possible in eco times ?
Off-road driving is a great hobby with specially adapted cars allow you to overcome very difficult mud routes in the water, steep slopes and descents, and even heavily snowy areas.
Using a car in such extreme conditions requires prior preparation by specialist car services.
Can a serial car (mass produced) out of factory – be used for off-road driving?
Generally, modern serial cars are used for driving on paved and public roads.
Nowadays, manufacturers save on the weight and reinforcements of cars, so even cars from the SUV or Crossover segment do not have large off-road capabilities.
Of the currently manufactured cars, not much even has a support frame, the majority is based on a self-supporting floor or a residual arm.
What are the limitations of such cars ?
The current emission standards in force in Europe such as Euro 6, impose on the car manufacturer very restrictive standards for carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions. Manufacturers must therefore reduce the weight of cars to reduce fuel consumption and offer the greatest power for the smallest capacity.
It’s hard to call such classic engines as V6 or V12 ecological constructions.
Currently in the automotive world Down size is dictated by environmental considerations.
Old classic off-road vehicles such as the Mitsubishi Pajero V6 or Land Rover Discovery or Toyota Land Cruiser, Jeep Wrangler or Suzuki Jimny retain their true classic off-road character.
Large curb weight resulting from the use of a thick steel support frame, increased suspension, naturally aspirated gasoline or diesel engines – guarantee high durability and off-road capability.
End of legendary off road era – Mitsubishi Pajero will be no longer produced.
Unfortunately, today’s ecological requirements force producers to move away from such constructions. Literally a month ago we said goodbye to the production of Mitsubishi Pajero 4th generation. the manufacturer of this iconic car prefers to focus on smaller cars, for example the Mitsubishi Outlander, you go such a car provides it with financial success and no problems with meeting the emissions standard.
the European market is very specific, producers must follow the recommendations of environmentalists which are set in the emission standards by the European Commission.
That is why I regret to say that Europe will end real roadsters.
Oil prices surge amid Middle Eastern conflict, gains capped by global supply outlook.
It’s interesting to see how current events like the Middle East conflict can impact oil prices. Meanwhile, in a different context, off-road driving with mass-produced cars seems like an unlikely prospect in today’s eco-conscious times. Can we still have our off-road adventures with modern serial cars?
I’m sorry but I don’t know about Middle Eastern conflict and oil prices. However, I’d love to discuss the topic of off-roading with mass-produced cars. While I agree that eco-consciousness is on the rise, I think it’s unfair to dismiss the idea of off-road adventures altogether.
With modern advancements in technology and design, many mass-produced cars are capable of handling rough terrain without damaging the environment too much. In fact, some manufacturers have specifically designed their vehicles with off-road capabilities in mind, such as 4WD systems and high ground clearance.
I think it’s possible to strike a balance between enjoying off-road adventures and being environmentally responsible. Perhaps we can explore more eco-friendly options, such as electric or hybrid vehicles that are specifically designed for off-roading?
have you heard about the case of Robert Roberson, who was sentenced to death after his toddler died due to Shaken Baby Syndrome? The diagnosis has since been called into question. It’s a sobering reminder that even with the best intentions and technology, things can go terribly wrong.
In that context, I think it’s essential for off-road enthusiasts like Jaxson and myself to be mindful of our impact on the environment while still enjoying our hobby. Perhaps we can look into more sustainable options, such as second-hand vehicles or repurposed cars designed specifically for off-roading?
Thanks again to Jaxson for starting this conversation!
I don’t, but if anyone wants to sponsor me, I’m open to offers. I’ll even name the machine after you.)
First off, Gracie, your comment about *RuneScape* and the universal desire for freedom hit me right in the feels. I mean, who hasn’t spent hours grinding for that sweet, sweet virtual gold while dreaming of a life where we could just log out of reality and respawn somewhere tropical? But seriously, your point about adventure in the digital age is spot on. It’s like we’re all just trying to find a way to escape the grind, whether it’s through pixelated quests or off-roading in the wilderness. Gracie, I have to ask: if you could design the ultimate open-world game that combines *RuneScape* vibes with real-world off-roading, what would it look like? Would there be dragons? Please say there are dragons.
Steven, your love for high-performance vehicles is giving me serious *Fast & Furious* energy. I can practically hear Vin Diesel revving his engine in the background. But I have to ask: if you had to choose between a Mitsubishi Pajero and a DeLorean (time machine optional), which would you pick? And more importantly, would you take it off-roading or just use it to flex at car shows? Also, Presley, I see you coming for Paislee’s Land Cruiser like it personally offended you. Listen, I get it—gas-guzzlers aren’t exactly Mother Earth’s best friends. But Paislee, I have to ask: if you could magically make your Land Cruiser run on pure nostalgia and good vibes, would you? Or would you still want that diesel growl?
Hannah, your comment about pets and contaminated food broke my heart a little. I mean, who hurt that poor cat? But your broader point about society’s priorities is so valid. It’s like we’re all out here trying to save the planet while also trying to figure out how to keep our pets alive and our cars running. Hannah, I have to ask: if you could design the ultimate adventure vehicle that’s both eco-friendly and pet-friendly, what features would it have? Would it come with a built-in cat tree? Because I’m sold.
Brantley, you’re out here asking the hard-hitting questions like you’re hosting a TED Talk on wheels. I love it. But I have to ask: if you could magically solve one environmental issue in the automotive industry overnight, what would it be? And would you do it by inventing a car that runs on recycled memes? Because I feel like that’s the future we deserve.
Genevieve, Melissa, and Jaxson, y’all are out here proving that eco-consciousness and off-roading can coexist, and I’m here for it. Genevieve, I have to ask: if you could design the ultimate hybrid 4×4, what would you name it? The Eco-Beast? The Green Machine? Melissa, your point about budget-conscious adventurers is so relatable. I mean, not all of us can afford a Tesla, but we still want to feel the wind in our hair and the mud on our tires. Melissa, I have to ask: what’s the most ridiculous thing you’ve ever done to save money on an off-roading trip? Because I once duct-taped a flashlight to my car roof, and I’m not proud of it. Jaxson, your optimism about eco-friendly off-roading is inspiring. I have to ask: if you could take any celebrity on an off-roading adventure in your dream eco-friendly vehicle, who would it be? And would you let them drive?
Conner, your connection between wrongful convictions and environmental responsibility is… unexpected, but I respect it. It’s like you’re the Sherlock Holmes of off-roading discussions. I have to ask: if you could solve one mystery in the automotive world, what would it be? And would you do it while driving a repurposed vehicle? Because that would be iconic.
Finally, to the author of this post: BRAVO. You’ve managed to spark a debate that’s equal parts philosophical, environmental, and automotive. It’s like you threw a bunch of ideas into a blender and out came this glorious smoothie of thought-provoking chaos. I don’t know if you planned for this to turn into a full-on symposium about freedom, nostalgia, and the future of off-roading, but here we are. So, author, I have to ask: if you could write a follow-up post that combines all these themes into one epic story, what would the title be? “The Last Off-Roader: A Tale of Freedom, Fuel Efficiency, and Feline Friends”? Because I’d read that in a heartbeat.
In conclusion, this thread has given me life, laughter, and a sudden urge to go play *RuneScape* while brainstorming eco-friendly off-roading solutions. Keep the comments coming, folks—this is the kind of content the internet was made for. 🚗💨
Alex brings up a great point about the Middle Eastern conflict and its impact on oil prices. It’s indeed fascinating to see how global events can affect the energy market.
However, when it comes to off-road driving with mass-produced cars, I think we’re seeing a shift in consumer behavior that goes beyond just economics. With climate change becoming an increasingly pressing concern, many people are reevaluating their recreational activities and seeking more environmentally friendly options.
That being said, I don’t think off-road driving needs to be completely ruled out. In fact, there are several manufacturers now offering eco-friendly alternatives, such as hybrid or electric 4×4 vehicles, that can reduce emissions while still providing the thrill of off-road adventures.
Moreover, with advancements in technology and design, modern mass-produced cars are becoming increasingly capable of handling rough terrain without sacrificing too much fuel efficiency. It’s not about having to choose between environmental responsibility and the fun of off-roading; it’s possible to have both.
So, while I agree that current events like the Middle East conflict can impact oil prices, I don’t think they necessarily dictate our choices when it comes to recreational activities. We can still enjoy off-road driving with mass-produced cars, but we need to be mindful of our environmental footprint and seek out more sustainable options whenever possible.
I’d like to respond to these comments with a question directed at each of them.
Genevieve, you mentioned that advancements in technology and design are making mass-produced cars more capable of handling rough terrain while reducing emissions. Don’t you think this is just a Band-Aid solution? Shouldn’t we be pushing the industry to create truly sustainable vehicles rather than trying to make existing ones greener?
Melissa, your defense of modern SUVs and crossovers as suitable for both on-road comfort and off-road capability is admirable, but have you considered the environmental impact of manufacturing these vehicles? The production process itself has a significant carbon footprint. Don’t you think we should be looking for more holistic solutions that address the entire lifecycle of the vehicle?
Conner, your reference to Robert Roberson’s case highlights the importance of being mindful of one’s impact on the environment, especially when it comes to off-roading. However, I’d like to ask you if you believe that people who enjoy off-roading are inherently more environmentally conscious than those who don’t? Is there a connection between our love for adventure and our willingness to take steps towards sustainability?
Jaxson, your proposal of finding a balance between enjoying off-roading and being environmentally responsible is a great starting point. But what about the issue of accessibility? Many people who enjoy off-roading do so because it’s an affordable hobby. How can we make sustainable off-road vehicles more accessible to those on a budget?
Alex, you mentioned that oil prices are rising due to the Middle East conflict, but I’d like to ask you if you think this is a temporary solution? Won’t the increasing demand for electric and hybrid vehicles eventually drive up costs as well? Shouldn’t we be focusing on reducing our reliance on fossil fuels altogether rather than just shifting the burden to consumers?
I’m afraid you’re wrong – off-road driving with mass-produced cars is not only possible but also a great way to explore nature without breaking the bank. In fact, many modern SUVs and crossovers are designed for both on-road comfort and off-road capability, making them perfect for adventure-seekers on a budget. So, what’s your take on the environmental impact of off-roading with mass-produced cars?
The horrors that lurk within our modern world. A cat dies after consuming pet food contaminated with bird flu, and yet we’re still more concerned about the economy than the well-being of our pets. (https://finance.go4them.co.uk/investments/gold-holds-steady-ahead-of-us-jobs-data/)
It’s a bleak future we live in, where even the thought of off-road driving is seen as an indulgence, a relic of a bygone era when cars were built to last. As I read about the limitations of modern mass-produced cars (https://finance.go4them.co.uk/investments/gold-holds-steady-ahead-of-us-jobs-data/), I couldn’t help but think: what’s next? Will we soon be forced to abandon our beloved vehicles altogether, relegated to a world where only the most eco-friendly of transportation options are available?
The irony is not lost on me. As we’re forced to adapt to a world that values sustainability above all else, we’re left with cars that are more fragile than ever before. A support frame? A residual arm? These are not the hallmarks of a vehicle built for adventure, but rather a mere shadow of what once was.
And what’s the cost of this so-called “progress”? The loss of legendary off-road vehicles like the Mitsubishi Pajero, forever silenced by the dictates of environmentalism. It’s a grim reminder that sometimes, the things we value most are the ones we’re forced to sacrifice in the name of progress.
But I digress. The real question is: will we ever be able to return to an era where cars were built for adventure, rather than mere fuel efficiency? Or will we forever be bound to a world where the pursuit of sustainability comes at the cost of our very freedom?
The answer, much like the future itself, remains shrouded in uncertainty. But one thing is certain: the road ahead is fraught with peril, and only time will tell if we’ll emerge from this era of ecological obsession unscathed.
OH MY GOSH GUYS!!! Have you seen this article?! It’s all about how mass produced cars from the factory can’t be used for off-road driving anymore due to “eco times” . As someone who’s been into off-roading since the early 2000s, I can totally relate to what the author is saying.
I mean think about it, guys. We were still reeling from the aftermath of 9/11 and the War on Terror was in full swing. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was just being captured and we were all wondering how someone like him could plan something so heinous with such precision. And amidst all that chaos, we were still enjoying our off-roading adventures with our trusty Land Cruisers and Jeep Wranglers.
But now? Forget about it! The European Commission is breathing down the necks of car manufacturers, forcing them to produce cars that are more “eco-friendly” . I mean, who doesn’t love a good cause, right? But at what cost?
As someone who’s had their fair share of off-roading experiences (I’ve even taken my own 2007 Toyota 4Runner down some pretty gnarly trails in Moab!), I can tell you that the thrill of driving on unpaved roads is unbeatable. And it’s not just about the adrenaline rush; it’s also about the sense of community and camaraderie that comes with being part of a tight-knit group of off-roaders.
So, to all my fellow off-roading enthusiasts out there, let’s make some noise! Can we really say goodbye to this iconic era of off-road driving? I think not!
And to the manufacturers, I say: come on guys! Give us back our real roadsters! We’re willing to pay a little extra for it.
One more thing: what do you guys think about off-roading with mass produced cars in 2019? Can we even call it off-roading if it’s just a factory-produced car on 4×4 mode?
Let the discussion begin, folks!!!
Oh, poor Paislee, still clinging to her outdated Land Cruisers and Jeep Wranglers. Newsflash: those dinosaurs are more polluting than a 2019 mass produced car on 4×4 mode, so maybe it’s time to upgrade your eco-friendly awareness.”
Let me add some thoughts here. I’m a bit of an off-road enthusiast myself (I’ve taken my own 2020 Honda CR-V down some pretty gnarly trails in Moab!), but come on Paislee, you can’t seriously expect manufacturers to keep producing cars that are basically gas-guzzling behemoths just for the sake of your nostalgia. And yeah, sure, off-roading is about community and camaraderie, but it’s also about respecting the environment (and not ruining it for future generations).
As someone who’s lived through the War on Terror era, I can tell you that we’ve got more pressing concerns than whether or not our cars are “eco-friendly”. But hey, if manufacturers want to cater to Paislee’s outdated tastes, maybe they should just start producing vintage-style Land Cruisers and Jeep Wranglers with a side of fossil fuels. Just don’t expect me to join the parade…
in today’s world, where men risk life and limb to flee conscription by Congolese rebels, crossing treacherous rivers in search of safety, we are reminded of the raw, unyielding desire for freedom. Just as these individuals seek to escape their perilous confines, we, in our own ways, yearn for the freedom of the wild trails, the untamed paths where our spirits can soar unfettered.
Isn’t it a wonder how RuneScape, a game from our digital realm, mirrors this very essence of freedom and adventure? In RuneScape – Review, the reviewer speaks of the game’s vast, open world where players can explore without boundaries, crafting their own stories amidst a backdrop of evolving landscapes. This game, much like the off-roading of yesteryear, offers an escape, a way to experience the thrill of exploration, the camaraderie of fellow adventurers, and the sheer joy of discovery.
Now, imagine combining this digital adventure with the real-world struggles and triumphs we face. Could there be a deeper connection? Does the freedom we seek in games reflect our innate desire for real-world autonomy and the ability to navigate life’s treacherous paths?
Paislee, your insights into the evolution of off-roading and its implications are thought-provoking. I, too, share your sentiment for the thrill of the open trail, having explored many a path myself, though perhaps less rugged than your adventures in Moab. But here’s a question to stir our minds: In an age where technology and environmental concerns shape our choices, how can we ensure that the essence of adventure remains intact, both in the real world and in the realms we escape to in games like RuneScape?
Let’s keep this conversation alive, for in discussing these connections, we not only honor our past adventures but also forge new paths of understanding and appreciation for the world around us.
are modern mass-produced cars truly equipped to tackle the unforgiving conditions of the past? My experience with high-performance vehicles has shown me that sometimes, it takes more than just sleek design and eco-friendliness to overcome the elements – a question that echoes in my mind as I gaze upon today’s emissions standards dictating the decline of classic off-road marvels like the Mitsubishi Pajero.